Pope Decries ‘Ideological Colonization’ of Family; Islamic State Executes Gays and Others; Gay Couple Gets Long-Delayed Wedding in Mexico; Global LGBT Recap

US President Barack Obama made history this week with what are reported to have been the first appearances of the words lesbian, bisexual, and transgender in a State of the Union address. He also referred to marriage equality as a civil right and “a story of freedom.”

We have reported on the World Council of Families and its promotion of anti-gay policies in Russia and around the world, as well as religious conservatives’ rhetorical opposition to “gender ideology.” This week Political Research Associates released an article on WCF’s global reach and how “a seemingly innocuous definition of the ‘natural family’ is being used as the basis of new laws to justify the criminalization of abortion and LGBTQ people.”

With its doctrine of preserving what it regards as the “natural family,” WCF is waging a campaign at local, national, and international levels to ensure that male dominance, heteronormativity (the belief that heterosexuality is the only acceptable sexual orientation), and religious hegemony are core tenets of civil society. “The WCF has created a cultural framework, under the banner of the family, that is inclusive enough to appeal to a broad base,” said Gillian Kane, senior policy advisor at Ipas, an international reproductive justice advocacy group. “But it is also so narrowly writ that most of their initiatives and arguments don’t hold up under international law.”

WCF, however, is gradually chipping away at international laws designed to protect human rights, posing a direct threat to LGBTQ people, women’s reproductive freedom, single parents, mixed families, and other family structures that do not fit into the parameters of WCF’s “natural family.” At best, those who are deemed “unnatural” by WCF standards could be excluded from the rights and privileges granted to “natural families.” At worst, they could be fined or otherwise punished by the state.

The article is an in-depth look at the World Congress of Families’ history, ideology, strategy, and influence.

Philippines: Pope criticizes ‘ideological colonization of the family’

Pope Francis drew massive crowds in this week’s visit to the Philippines, the Catholic Church’s stronghold in Asia. He drew the most attention for an off-the-cuff remark about Catholics not needing to breed like rabbits, but he also made some comments seemingly targeting moves toward marriage equality.

“The family is threatened by growing efforts on the part of some to redefine the very institution of marriage, by relativism, by the culture of the ephemeral, by a lack of openness to life,” Francis said at a Mass in Manila. “These realities are increasingly under attack from powerful forces, which threaten to disfigure God’s plan for creation.”

He also criticized the “ideological colonization of the family,” rhetoric that is disturbingly similar to that used by anti-gay leaders in Africa who complain that efforts by western countries to protect the human rights of LGBT people is a form of colonialism.

John Allen at the Crux reminds us this is not the first time Francis has said marriage is meant for a man and a woman:

In November 2014, for instance, Francis defended the traditional concept of marriage to a three-day Vatican conference.

The man/woman nature of marriage, he said, is “an anthropological fact … that cannot be qualified based on ideological notions or concepts important only at one time in history.”

The comments also came less than a week after a speech to diplomats at the Vatican in which Francis criticized “legislation which benefits various forms of cohabitation rather than adequately supporting the family for the welfare of society as a whole,” saying that such legislation had contributed to a widespread sense of the family as “disposable.”

Allen writes that there was a “widespread assumption” that Francis “was backing the progressive side” in the arguments over language about gay people at last fall’s bishops’ synod. “In light of the pope’s comments in the Philippines,” we writes, “those conclusions may have to be rethought.”

Islamic State: Gays among execution targets

The Islamic State terrorist organization released photos it said showed gay men being thrown to their deaths off the top of a building in Mosul, Iraq.

The first still image shows a crowd gathered on a square on a cloudy day. The shot is taken from the top of a brown building that appears to be seven or eight stories high. The caption at the bottom of the screen says, “The Muslims come to watch the application of the law.”

The text accompanying one photograph refers to a prison as “one of Lot’s people.” According to Vice, “The reference is to the biblical inhabitants of Lot’s towns of Sodom and Gomorrah, whose people sinned and were punished by God in the Old Testament for committing sexually deviant acts.”

The execution of the gay men was part of a frenzy of violence carried out by Isis, which included the stoning of a woman accused of adultery, and the crucifixion of 17 young men in 48 hour period.

In addition, the Times of India reported on Tuesday that the United Nations was warning about a new wave of violence targeting “educated women.”

Ireland: Marriage Referendum Language Set; Health Minister Comes Out

The language of May’s marriage equality referendum was announced this week:

It proposes to add to the Constitution a declaration that “marriage may be contracted in accordance with law by two persons without distinction as to their sex”.

Minister for Justice Frances Fitzgerald said the wording is clear and precise, and gives a right to every citizen who wishes to get married.

The minister said that she believes the referendum is a recognition of the increasing acceptance of people of different sexual orientation.

Bishop of Clogher Liam MacDaid, who heads the Irish Bishops’ Council for Marriage and the Family, calledthe language cold, and said society would be “disappointed” by it.  RTE reports, “Late last year, the bishops distributed thousands of copies of a pastoral statement promoting the church’s teaching on marriage and opposing the State’s attempt to redefine it in the referendum.”

Leo Varadkar, Ireland’s Minister for Health, came out on Sunday, connecting his action with the country’s upcoming referendum on marriage equality. From the Irish Times:

“There’s a referendum on marriage equality coming up too, and I just want to be honest with people. I was thinking about the arguments that I might make, and all the arguments that I was going to make were kind of detached” he said, speaking on his 36th birthday.

“What I really want to say is that I’d like the referendum to pass because I’d like to be an equal citizen in my own country, the country in which I happen to be a member of Government, and at the moment I’m not,” he added.

Another Irish politicians, Dominic Hannigan, revealed that he had married his partner in London on New Year’s Eve.

Ukraine: Foreign Policy profiles ‘dashed hopes’ of LGBT community

Writing for Foreign Policy, Dimiter Kenarov explores the hostility facing Ukraine’s LGBT community. The article starts with the torching of a theater that had been showing a queer-themed movie as part of a film festival, and the arrest of suspects who confessed that their goal had been to express their “contempt” for LGBT people.

Two days after the fire at Zhovten, about a dozen men in camouflage and the insignia of the ultranationalist group Right Sector tried to shut down another LGBT film screening, calling it “amoral.” Asked at the recent Eurocities Conference how he would support human rights after the Zhovten homophobic attacks, Maidan’s hero and current Kiev mayor Vitali Klitschko said he considered human rights a good thing, but would “not stand up for gays and lesbians.”

It was not supposed to be that way in the new Ukraine.

The February revolution was aimed, first and foremost, at the ouster of the notoriously corrupt president Viktor Yanukovych and his criminal cabal. But there was also hope among many of the revolution’s liberal supporters that Ukraine would choose a pro-Western European course, not just politically, but culturally as well — one that would include a space for the LGBT community. Life has changed radically in Ukraine over the past year: Old attitudes toward politics, history, and national identity have altered beyond recognition and a new civic spirit has taken root among many, revitalizing Ukraine. But conservative attitudes toward people of different sexual orientation have doggedly persevered — and in some cases even worsened.

Kenarov says that even though many Ukranians reject Moscow’s annexation of Crimea and its interference in the country’s east,

“At the same time, the ensuing daily chaos and uncertainty, as well as the rising levels of nationalism and militarization in Ukraine, have drawn many to the emotional safety of the traditional family and religious values of the Orthodox Church — an institution that has been often guilty of bigotry and open hostility to sexual difference. Old Ukrainian folk narratives, where men are supposed to be warriors while women play nurturers, have experienced a revival. Ironically, incipient Ukrainian nationalism has closely mirrored its Russian counterpart, along with the emphasis on cultural orthodoxy and prescribed gender roles. As a result, vulnerable groups, like the LGBT community, have been caught in the middle.

“I believe we are in between two evils: Russian homophobic culture and Ukrainian homophobic intolerance,” says Olena Semenova, an LGBT activist….

For years, the Ukrainian state has passively stood by and sometimes even encouraged homophobia. In 2012, a few members of parliament proposed a bill to “prohibit promotion of homosexuality,” fashioned after the notorious Russian laws against “gay propaganda,” but under pressure from human rights organizations and foreign diplomats, the bill never made it past the first reading and has now been permanently shelved. Ukrainian laws also make no explicit provision for protecting from discrimination on grounds of sexual orientation. In fact, even the post-revolutionary Ukrainian government has actively fought off the EU’s urging to introduce any such legal language, since officially raising the issue of LGBT rights in Ukraine is seen as a huge political liability in today’s highly charged political climate. Much of Russia’s anti-Western propaganda focuses on Europe’s tolerance of “sexual perversions” and “moral decadence” — Gayropa, as the pro-Kremlin media love to call Europe — and the Ukrainian authorities do not want to see any such rhetoric justified, which could help the separatists and alienate local conservative groups.

Chile: Civil Union Bill Passes House

Human Rights Watch reports on the advance of civil union legislation:

Chile’s House of Representatives approved a “civil union” bill this week granting legal rights to same-sex couples. The bill creates the Pacto de Unión Civil (PUC), a new legal status for couples that live together in committed relationships, regardless of gender. Despite stiff opposition from religious leaders, the bill passed with an overwhelming majority of 86 votes in favor, 23 against, and 2 abstentions. It now awaits approval by the Chilean Senate.

The bill would also grant the same civil union legal status to same-sex couples who have been legally married in other countries.

Mexico: Long-delayed wedding takes place in Mexicali

We have previously reported that city officials in Mexicali had repeatedly found excuses for refusing to follow a court order allowing a gay couple to marry. This week the couple was finally married, and it was reported that criminal proceedings could be launched against the mayor for having refused the order from the Supreme Court.

From UT San Diego:

Victor Fernando Urias Amparo, 37, and Victor Manuel Aguirre Espinoza, 43, took their vows amid a crush of media and supporters outside Mexicali City Hall. “Yes we could, yes we could,” the crowd cheered in Spanish.

The impromptu wedding ceremony came as a surprise to the pair, who had come to City Hall on Saturday morning to participate in a gay rights demonstration, said their attorney, Jose Luis Marquez. They had received hints that a wedding might take place, but were doubtful. They had already been rejected three times, despite an order from Mexico’s Supreme Court last June.

More from the Washington Blade:

A local judge officiated what the San Diego Union-Tribune described as the “impromptu wedding” of Victor Fernando Urias Amparo and Victor Manuel Aguirre Espinoza that took place outside Mexicali City Hall during an LGBT rights protest.

Aguirre told the Washington Blade that Mexicali Mayor Jaime Díaz Ochoa’s assistant came up to him and Urias and told them that he would like to allow them to marry “at that moment.” The two men and their lawyer, José Luís Márquez, went into Díaz’s office and came out of Mexicali City Hall about half an hour later.

Another same-sex couple was married in León, Guanajuato.

Lithuania: MP warns gays may face Christian version of Charlie Hebdo massacre

Lithuanian Member of Parliament Algirdas Vaclovas Patackas warned that the Lithuanian Gay League is “playing with fire” that could result in “dead bodies.” According to Pink News, Patackas said, “Because in Lithuania, as in every land which calls itself Christian, not everyone turns the left cheek; there are many, who believe in the principle “an eye for an eye”, i.e., the main cause of what has happened in Paris.” His comments were denounced by several members of the European Parliament.

Egypt: Anti-Gay media part of government’s ‘more Muslim than Islamists’ campaign

We have been reporting on the Egyptian government’s persecution of gay men as a political tactic to prevent Islamists from building greater popular support. This week BuzzFeed’s J. Lester Feder and Maged Atef report from Cairo that IbrahimMonsour, the editor-in-chief of the Tahrir News, a leading liberal newspaper, told them, “These are instructions from the state apparatus” to cover sex scandals and other “silly” issues.

Monsour said he believed the government wanted coverage of arrests for homosexuality and other “morality” charges in order to distract from political stories that could expose how the government had betrayed the hopes of the revolution that toppled the 30-year rule of former President Hosni Mubarak in 2011.

“The regime is claiming that they represent the revolution and none of the revolution’s demands have been met,” Monsour said. News outlets, eager to keep their share of the market, have eagerly picked up the government’s line also because it serves their financial interests — sex sells, and it can continue drawing readers when the hot-button political topics are off-limits. “Unfortunately, money talks,” he said. “The problem is that there is no decency, no conscience among the people who work in the field.”

Direct evidence of Egyptian President Abdel Fattah al-Sisi’s office seeking to dictate coverage to the media surfaced this week in the form of a phone call taped during his presidential campaign that leaked online. In it, Sisi’s office manager, General Abas Kamal, is heard instructing spokesperson Ahmed Ali to give orders to journalists about what to say about Sisi.

In another story, Thom Senzee writes for the Advocate:

The current government crackdown on LGBT Egyptians has been amplified by hyperbolic media coverage, helping to foster an increase in antigay sentiments within society — which arguably serves el-Sisi’s need for a scapegoat community upon which to blame Egypt’s woes under his rule.

To be sure, there was never equality or real acceptance of LGBT people in Egypt, or any other staunchly Muslim country in the region, for that matter. But according to sources inside the country and expatriates interviewed for this article, there was a time not so long ago when to be gay or trans wasn’t as terrifying as it is today. That was before el-Sisi’s quest to appear “more Muslim than the Islamists.”

Macedonia: Marriage Ban Put in Constitution

This week Macedonia’s parliament voted to define marriage in the Constitution as a union between a man and a woman and reportedly “created a constitutional hurdle to possible future legislation on same-sex unions.”

An earlier version of the draft Amendment, which explicitly banned same-sex civil unions or registered cohabitation was strongly criticized by the Venice Commission, an advisory body of the Council of Europe in constitutional affairs.

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  • omprem108@gmail.com' Northern_Witness says:

    Francis Flames Out

    Pope Frances attained the papacy on March 2013. Four months later on a return flight from Brazil, his first official trip as Pope, Francis said in reference to a question about LGBT efforts to attain equality in the Church, “If a person
    is gay and seeks God and has good will, who am I to judge?” This comment
    echoed the admonitions of Jesus in the Gospels of Matthew and John against
    judging and electrified the world, instilling a growing hope in the LGBT
    community of unqualified inclusion in the Catholic Church.

    People in their hope and spiritual inclusiveness chose to ignore the Pope’s comments during the same conversion that homosexual acts were and would in the future be considered sinful. He added that homosexuals should not become priests. Pope Francis also used the interview to target women by saying that they also could not become priests and moreover that “That door is closed.”

    Nevertheless people continued to consider Pope Francis as someone who would bring significant change and equality to the Church. They were wrong.

    Nine months later, In the space of just a few weeks between mid-December 2014 and mid-January 2015, and with just four steps, Pope Francis made clear his
    hypocrisy and has destroyed his carefully laid image as a non-judgmental,
    caring, compassionate, and inclusive Pope.

    Step one. In mid-December Pope Francis declined to meet with the Dalai Lama who was visiting Rome for a meeting of Nobel Peace Prize winners because of a “delicate situation” with China.

    The Dalai Lama received the Nobel Peace Prize in 1989 for his efforts to engage China over its invasion and subjugation of Tibet by seeking autonomy but not independence for Tibet.

    Pope Francis declined to meet with the Dalai Lama because the Catholic Church is in negotiation with China over the control of the Catholic Church in China. In
    China there are two Catholic Churches. One is an official organ of the Chinese
    Communist Party numbering some 12 million people. The other is an underground Church loyal to the Pope that is supposedly much larger. The main area of contention between China and the Vatican is which side has the power to approve bishops.

    Pope Francis fails to appreciate that by declining to meet with the Dalai Lama for
    fear of China’s opinion and reaction he has acknowledged the dominant power of
    China in his negotiations and has effectively defeated himself in the question
    of dominance over the Chinese Church.

    This calculated, politically inspired snub of the Dalai Lama demonstrates the Pope’s inexcusable shallowness, greed, and power seeking. It also demonstrates the shallowness, greed and power-seeking focus of the Catholic Church.

    Step two. In mid-January 2015, Pope Francis began a tour of Asia to gain adherents for the Catholic Church and to shore up support from
    existing adherents with a visit to Sri Lanka in which he called for the
    “pursuit of truth” “as a necessary means of promoting justice, healing and
    unity.”

    As part of that truth, reconciliation, and healing process, the Pope needs to
    acknowledge the atrocities committed by the Inquisitions of Portuguese
    Catholics beginning in 1505 AD and Dutch Catholics beginning in 1602 AD whereby every place of worship in Sri Lanka that was non-Catholic was destroyed and the native population converted to Catholicism by force with resisters killed.

    As a symbolic start, Pope Francis should order the return of the Our Lady of Madhu Church to the Sinhalese people of Sri Lanka so that it can become the original Pattini Devale temple it once was. This temple was built some 1850 years ago and only misappropriated by the Catholic Church 140 years ago in1876 AD.

    In addition, Pope Francis should apologize and seek forgiveness for the brutal
    atrocities committed in the Church’s Inquisitions in Sri Lanka and in Goa,
    India.

    Then there is the larger brute suppression by the Church of indigenous religions and cultures in Central and South America.

    Other governments have officially apologized for historic acts against the life and
    property of other groups.

    The Pope’s smug ignoring of the gruesome facts of the Catholic presence in the
    Indian subcontinent and elsewhere shows that nothing has changed. The Church
    needs to acknowledge the forces that still drive its lust for conversion.

    Step three. Also in mid-January 2015 during his Asian proselytization tour Pope Francis visited the Philippines and condemned homosexuality and same sex marriage claiming that there was an “ideological colonization of the family” by the LGBT community.

    Pope Francis also condemned civil legislation that allowed same-sex marriage or
    civil unions.

    He reiterated the mistaken notion of the Catholic Church that the man/woman nature of marriage is “an anthropological fact…that cannot be qualified based on
    ideological notions or concepts important only at one time in history.”

    Pope Francis went on to praise Pope Paul VI, whom he is in the process of
    beatifying, as a genius who courageously stood against the majority, who
    exercised a “brake” on cultural influences and change, and who opposed birth
    control.

    It is interesting that the Pope views marriage as only for the creating of future
    Catholics. He ignores the main reason for marriage which is two people growing
    and living in Love and deepening spirituality. Like Tina Turner the Pope is
    left screaming, “What’s love got to do with it?”

    On a political level, same sex marriage can indeed be seen as an “ideological
    colonization of the family”. But not in the way the Pope imagines. Every person
    on earth is living on a spot that was at one time colonized by ancestors. The
    original settlers left a place that was unsuitable for life, freedom, and
    spiritual development, came to another place that was feral and decided to live
    there, overcoming any hostility or discouragement, so that they could
    eventually breathe spiritually. Today the supporters of same sex marriage are
    breaking free of the chains of oppression that bound them, expanding borders
    and entering territory previously denied them. Western governments recognize
    this and encourage it with new inclusive equal rights legislation including
    equal marriage laws. Same sex marriage supporters are spiritual colonists. Good for them. God bless them.

    Any hateful, exclusive definition of marriage needs to be
    changed.

    Homosexuality is only relative because the Pope chooses to
    view it as so. The psychiatric profession in the West does not agree. It
    considers homosexuality to be just another example of human marriage, part of a
    wide spectrum.

    Neither is homosexuality ephemeral as the Pope claims.
    Homosexuality because it is part of the spectrum of human characteristics has
    been around as long as there have been people. (Deniers will bring up the
    metaphor of Adam and Eve but even in that story there was no formal marriage.)
    The only thing ephemeral about homosexuality is the term itself. “Homosexuality”
    was coined only in 1869 by the German human rights campaigner, Karl-Maria
    Kertbeny.

    It is quite calculating of Pope Francis to make this condemnation of homosexuality and same sex marriage in Asia where homophobia is
    rampant and where the Pope hopes to make converts. The Pope’s speech is crass hucksterism on a level with McDonald’s advertising its wares.

    This speech is the last gasp of a dying religion. Catholic attendance in the West is down. The Church is having difficulty attracting young Western men to the priesthood. Western birthrates are down. The only solution was to engage Asia in order to attract more converts and priests.

    As for Pope Francis, he was but a short-lived shooting star of light that unfortunately has extinguished itself after only a few months. Too bad for him and the Church.

    Step four. Not only is Pope Francis a naïve political opportunist, a homophobe and a misogynist, he believes in force to entrench his views.

    During an interview while flying to Manila, capital of the Philippines where he made the above comments, Pope Francis compared the spate of global suicide bombings to the use of Kamikaze pilots in World War II, branding them both as the result of totalitarian systems. He said, “”The totalitarian
    system kills, if not life, then possibilities: kills future, kills many
    things,” and added “This problem is not over, it is not only a
    problem in the East.”

    Indeed the problem of totalitarian systems is not over
    and is not confined to the Middle East and Asia. Pope Francis is oblivious to
    the fact that the Catholic Church is itself a totalitarian system no different
    from those that bomb. The Church kills the futures women and the LGBT community and exposes all of them to physical threats and murder through indoctrination of its members with its hate messages.

    During that interview, Pope Francis said that one cannot make war in the name of one’s religion. “To kill in the name of God is an aberration.”, he claimed. However, he also said that one cannot insult other people’s faith, one cannot make fun of
    religion. He added rather ominously, “There is a limit. Every religion has its
    dignity.” The Pope punctuated these statements with a personal observation that if someone swore against his mother, “a punch awaits him”.

    This tendency to hatred and violence in the Pope and
    in the Catholic Church is historic and systemic. It is the death knell of the
    Catholic Church. Not only does Pope Francis not recognize this, he revels in
    hatred and violence both personally and career wise as he caters to the
    homophobia and misogyny of Asia in an attempt to repair the damage to the
    existence of the Church in the West.

    In the West a better educated, more secure population increasingly
    disowns the Church’s violence toward women and the LGBT community. Rather than heed the informed opinions of science and psychiatry and ignoring the growing spiritual conscience of the West, the Catholic Church refuses any
    self-examination and merely shifts its preying on the financially vulnerable
    and unsophisticated to the East.

    To paraphrase Jean-Batiste Alphonse Karr’s 1849
    observation, “The more things change the more they stay the same.”

    The Catholic Church seems unwilling and unable
    intrinsically change itself. It settles for new ways of repeating, justifying,
    and protecting its characteristic hatred, its exclusionary beliefs and
    practices, and its career path exclusivity for males. Instead of change it seeks out new opportunities for proselytization in
    areas of want and political oppression.

    It is only delaying its inevitable demise.

    The Catholic Church is already undergoing a schism as
    young people, women, and members of the LGBT community leave the Church for other religions, for other spiritual practices or to follow the words of Jesus
    and gather in small inclusive groups for mutual guidance and support, in
    effect, creating a multitude of churches resting in Grace.

  • tojby_2000@yahoo.com' apotropoxy says:

    F1: “These realities are increasingly under attack from powerful forces, which threaten to disfigure God’s plan for creation.”
    __________________________________

    This god seems constantly frustrated by its minion creations by balling up its plans. Isn’t it time to consider switching devotion to a more powerful entity? While having a fearsome reputation for disproportionate vengeance, I thing the deity under discussion doesn’t really have the juice to retaliate.

  • cgoslingpbc@aol.com' cgosling says:

    When will people learn both the physical and mental selection of sexual identity is not determined by choice? It is determined before birth by genes and their expression. Society can reject a fact of nature or accept it, but we know that gender plays no role in a persons love and consideration of others, no role in criminality, no role in parenthood, no role in military service, no role in honesty, no role in compassion or empathy. When will people learn that gender identity is not destructive of families and friendships? LGBTs are our sons and daughters, our mothers and fathers, our family, our good friends, diplomates, entertainers, soldiers, scholars, everybody. To pass negative judgement on people because of their sexual identity is the greatest sin of all and those who preach it is sinful are the greatest hypocrites of all.

  • rtoltschin@gmail.com' RexTIII says:

    It certainly is interesting to note the horrors, unbelievable horrors – 2015, here on our Shared Planet Earth – taking place, and the single entity which stands in the place furthering violence and death; Religion.

    Millions of people are Gay, and millions of people are also within the entire LGBT spectrum. Persecution of Human Beings because of who they are, their sexual and gender identity is not a ‘right’ of any religion. Yet all of the elements of the major religions continue to consider themselves in a righteous position of control – the voice of what is real about people while not real at all.

    It’s astounding. Truly astounding. Women Stoned To Death. Men Thrown Off Of Buildings To Their Deaths. Based on a belief about a story and sexual deviance which isn’t even about sexual deviance although there is a twisted sick component of rape which is part of the story.

    And being Gay is not sexual deviance, it’s being human and gay is a natural way of being for those whom are born and wired this way. Of course, wise intellectual minds know this. The horror stories are old and historical – sadly not yet.

  • whistling.girl2910@gmail.com' pennyroyal says:

    “ideological colonization” –that is the reason for Catholicism: women as second class, dominated and controlled. A slave to her family.

  • rrtoal1@cox.net' R Tolle says:

    The anthropological evolution of marriage was to tie males to the females they impregnate so they will become the protector, provider, lover and companion of the female so as to care for her in the natural dependency she is placed in by motherhood. Same sex couples can live together and love each other but its not marriage.
    This hyperbolic attack on the church gives witness to its strength and durability. The church must give witness to the world when some therein are freaking out. The same hyperbolic attacks were made on the church when it opposed Marxism. The west is being destroyed by these deadly ideologies.. We ignore the warnings of the church and other voices of sanity at our peril!

  • omprem108@gmail.com' Northern_Witness says:

    You left love out of your calculations on reasons to get married, leaving it as an afterthought to pregnancy. Also, women unable to conceive or impotent men should, by your formula, not be able to get married. Marriage from the Church’s point of view, is to create new little Catholics and to control and demean the female part of the population by reserving Church office for males. The Church’s time is running out. People are leaving in droves. The Church needs to give up its prejudices, its calculated protection of office for men, its quest for power and wealth, and its mean-spiritedness. The Church to operate as Jesus did. Jesus suspended judgement, lived simply, healed people, told them they too were divine, shacked up with Mary Magdalene and made her the chief disciple.

    As for the Church’s “witness to the world”, it has a pathetic record. It witnessed against Copernicus and Galileo for their promotion of a heliocentric universe; it witnessed against and murdered Giordana Bruno for his promotion of cosmic pluralism; it witnessed against and murdered Lucilio Vanini for his promotion of the idea of humans evolving from apes. The Church has often been on the losing side of scientific discovery. Science has shown that same sex attraction, transsexualism, etc are normal occurrences on a very wide scale of human gender and sexual expressions.

  • fiona64@livejournal.com' fiona64 says:

    As long as people can keep deluding themselves that sexual orientation is a choice, they have an excuse to bigot. 🙁

  • fiona64@livejournal.com' fiona64 says:

    Oh, sweetie. I suggest that you not try to pretend that anthropology dictates only male/female relationships as marriage — because you would be so far off the reservation that it is not even funny. Not all kinship diagrams look the same. Marriage is, and always has been, an elastic institution across time and culture. http://www.aaanet.org/issues/policy-advocacy/Statement-on-Marriage-and-the-family.cfm

    Quote: The results of more than a century of anthropological research on
    households, kinship relationships, and families, across cultures and
    through time, provide no support whatsoever for the view that either
    civilization or viable social orders depend upon marriage as an
    exclusively heterosexual institution. Rather, anthropological research
    supports the conclusion that a vast array of family types, including
    families built upon same-sex partnerships, can contribute to stable and
    humane societies.

    No love, an actual anthropologist

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